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mzk:
--- Цитат ---Hi all ,
I found many differences on the web ...but never mind :
On PESWIKI:
42712.2Hz: Keely's water-disintegration frequency -> Laughing you're dead
42800 Hz: Aetheric dissociation/water resonance (water -> aetheric force)
Meyer Stanley / Dan Danforth :
43430 Hz 143762 HZ
SUBHARMONIC SUBHARMONIC
1st 21715 HZ 1st 71881 HZ
2nd 14476.67 HZ 2nd 47920.67 HZ
3rd 15517.5 HZ 3rd 35840.1 HZ
4th 8686 4th 28752.4 HZ
*1500 VOLTS IS THE MINIMUM REQUIRED FOR MOLECULAR RINGING TO BEGIN.
I found these values very interresting to test.
François.
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http://oupower.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=15706&highlight=pipe#15706
mzk:
Потърсих информация за тези 1500 волта, но никъде не намерих. В крайна сметка установих източника: http://www.rexresearch.com/meyerhy/meyerhy.htm
Понеже нямам какво да правя взех тези субхармонични честоти, за да видя на какво точно отговарят- разделих вторите на първите и се получи 3,31. Не какво означава и дали има някакъв смисъл, просто си смятам.
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by Dan Danforth
In the original setup that Stan Meyer showed us, he used 36 volts as the basic potential applied to the reaction chamber. He also commented that stainless steel ( 410 not 403 ) was the only metal that could be used as oxides formed with all others. His original chamber used 18 inch long by 0.375 inch diameter (o.d.) rod surrounded by 1 inch diameter (i.d.) 16 inch long pipe. The reason for the difference in length is for mechanical ease of construction. My prototype used 14 inch long rod and 12 inch long pipe of similar diameters as the drawing indicates.
Having a severe lack of parts diversity here in Sri-Lanka, I was only able to obtain a 24 volt. 8 amp transformer and built my circuitry around that. The final output is 20 volts with Ml reading 10 amps to the pulsing circuit which generates a symetricel squarewave ( 50% duty cycle ) to the flyback inductor connected in series with the chamber as the schematic shows. The flyback high voltage spike is directed across the chamber via c* end d*. The use of a high voltage spike alone, without the current being delivered through the liquid, will not cause the disassociation to take place. This I verified using an ignition coil in place of the inductor and applied the secondary with halfwave rectification and blocking capacitor to prevent burn out to the chamber with no results. Apparently the current in the water aligns the molecules approprately to allow the high voltege spike to do its workr which in my opinion is the stimulation of molecular resonance. Once Stan's unit was made to begin breakdown (which takes 6 to 8 seconds) he was able to reduce both current and voltage to miniscule proportions. I attribute this to sympathetic oscillation of the aligned molecules, requiring very little in the way of additional excitation. A phenomena akin to Tesla's super resonance... resulting in Stan discovering that he only had to supply three pulses in ten to satisfy the requirement of the chamber. I have not yet had the opportunity to duplicate this portion of the experiment but, in time I vill.
Duplication of the device described in these pages, however, will produce the phenomena and hopefully launch other enterprising end inventive souls on to designing their own refined models. It would be nice to have feedback so that we can all collectively work to bring about the transition to non-pollution energy.
P.S.- Though electrical circuit is by no means optinised, but represents instead the result of parts availability here. Any good technician could improve on it quite readily.
There are two primary frequencies that produce the best results. They are: 14,372 Hz and 43,430 Hz. The former is about 50% more efficient, but it seems that just about any frequency between 9 KHz and 143,762 KHz works quite well. (1) This is because the nature of the wave form ( a spike ) is rich in harmonics and one of them is bound to be close to one of the two primary frequencies.
Use of permanent magnets may also increase efficiency. I'll give you the outcome of that attempt in my next letter along with the plans for what I hope to be a much improved version.
Note: Sub-harmonics of the two primary frequencies at which dissociation will occur:
43430 Hz 143762 HZ
SUBHARMONIC SUBHARMONIC
1st 21715 HZ 1st 71881 HZ
2nd 14476.67 HZ 2nd 47920.67 HZ
3rd 15517.5 HZ 3rd 35840.1 HZ
4th 8686 4th 28752.4 HZ
*1500 VOLTS IS THE MINIMUM REQUIRED FOR MOLECULAR RINGING TO BEGIN.
Source publication: Unknown... Scanned from very bad photocopy.
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mzk:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=1095.0
--- Цитат ---An interesting phenomenon, that may very well tie into the OU discoveries.
Mechanical excitation of water using supersonics. Produces light!!! Some claim HUGE power generation due to the short time duration -picoseconds- Temperatures from 10,000 degrees Celsius, and possibly a temperature in excess of one million degrees Celsius. (see more refs bellow) What is very interesting is the following:
The phenomenon starts taking place according to this chart ( http://www.sonoluminescence.com/sl_data4.gif) around 28755 Hz looking at the charts published with peak outputs just a bit higher 28815Hz. (Other sources indicate frequencies closer to 25kHz)
http://www.sonoluminescence.com/
The interesting part is the frequencies were the Stanley Meyer Water cell also seems to operate the best!
Take a look 4th high Subharmonic frequency. The 4th is just about the same where the phenomenon starts. I wonder if a cell is designed to combine these two phenomena, what would be the result, e.g. using both same resonants, and/or varying the phases etc.!!!
The numbers are just too close, or it's a heck of a coincidence?
"There are two primary frequencies that produce the best results. They are: 14,372 Hz and 43,430 Hz. The former is about 50% more efficient, but it seems that just about any frequency between 9 KHz and 143,762 KHz works quite well. (1) This is because the nature of the wave form ( a spike ) is rich in harmonics and one of them is bound to be close to one of the two primary frequencies.
43430 Hz 143762 HZ
SUBHARMONIC SUBHARMONIC
1st 21715 HZ 1st 71881 HZ
2nd 14476.67 HZ 2nd 47920.67 HZ
3rd 15517.5 HZ 3rd 35840.1 HZ
4th 8686 4th 28752.4 HZ
*1500 VOLTS IS THE MINIMUM REQUIRED FOR MOLECULAR RINGING TO BEGIN. "
http://www.rexresearch.com/meyerhy/meyerhy.htm
More on Sonoluminescence
http://www.techmind.org/sl/
http://www-phys.llnl.gov/N_Div/sonolum/ (temp refs)
http://www.phschool.com/science/science_news/articles/star_in_a_jar.html
How to make your own?
http://physics.open.ac.uk/~swebb/ach.htm
sonofusion million degrees on the desktop
http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn4741
http://www.letu.edu/people/garydeboer/bubble-fusion.pdf
Out of curiosity Anyone with Tesla coils experience, what kind of frequencies do they operate best?
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AlchemyAsterix:
Ravi :
"Water resonates at 926khz"
from
из
http://www.panaceauniversity.org/Ravi%20Cell.pdf
This is first harmonic?
Это първа гармоника резонанса?
mzk:
Hello, you can type in English (or Russian, but I do not understand it clearly), don't worry.
Tell us more about your electrolisys cell. I don't know about magic frequency, I do not believe fully.
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